This is a complaint about the tesla aeb. here is a crash report https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forums/major-auto-pilot-safety-issue#comment-1183233 major auto pilot safety issue submitted by meliscu on june 29, 2017 i have (had) a 2015 p90 d. it is now totalled and i wanted to share my experience with auto-pilot. many of you are aware of the death that occurred last year when a tesla drove underneath a semi. it was explained as having to do with the angle of the car on a hill, the location of the sun . . . the car seeing under the truck . . . well, i have recently had two experiences, both called into tesla, where the sensors did not detect enormous trucks that were stationary, perpendicular to the lane of travel, and entirely blocking the road. in the first instance autopilot would have driven me directly into a garbage truck. a garbage truck! autopilot simply did not realize it should react to a garbage truck blocking the road. in the second instance a box truck misjudged its turning radius and stopped perpendicular to my lane. again, autopilot did not recognize that it should react to this enormous obstacle, and drove straight into the cab of the truck (almost, i reacted at the last moment and managed to avoid the cab, driving into the cargo area instead). yes, as the driver of the vehicle we maintain responsibility for what our vehicles are doing. that said, we place some degree of confidence that the software that powers our vehicles is generally in good order and able to perform in a basic sense . . . which is to say recognize major obstacles and slow to a stop. if you have or use autopilot, please be aware that it appears to have a major flaw. it does not see perpendicular trucks blocking the lane of travel. be careful. do not put any reliance on the vehicle to be aware of these types of risks. my vehicle is totalled. please investgate.
This is another complaint about the tesla autopilot. owners are complaining on the forums that the new upgrade version 8.0 has made things even more dangerous. https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/with-8-0-i-have-to-take-over-for-auto-pilot-more.78049/page-2 sample: the bad news: 1) the 'crest of the hill' problem seems just as bad as v7.1. all bets are off what ap is going to do when you crest a hill, so a firm grip on the wheel to make sure ap does not do something silly is required when cresting a hill. 2) there is a use case which is quite dangerous. when you approach stopped traffic directly ahead the radar 'sees' the stopped traffic, identifies the stopped traffic as a target, and brakes sensibly. every time so far. however, when the road is curved and the stopped traffic is not directly in front of the car (but is off to the right or the left) then the ap does not acquire the stopped traffic as a target, and does not brake. you had better be prepared to manually brake hard in this circumstance. mine hasn't improved. it still wanders across clear lines into oncoming traffic. the lines are indicated on the instrument cluster in blue and the car is shown straddling the line. it's like the ap has given up but hasn't warned me. i had the ap set for 50 mph and a car pulled out and stopped across my lane about 800 ft ahead. ap showed no signs of slowing, and at about 150 ft i had to come to a hard stop manually to avoid a colision. funny i was going to start a new thread about how ap is too scary to use in 8.0. guess i'm not alone. both braking and steering. if i could go back several revisions, i would. i don't feel like using it almost anywhere anymore. tthe car brakes too hard and too far away from cars ahead turning right - even when there's a turn lane. i'm always afraid that someone is going to rear-end me when this happens
Driving down the freeway at maximum speed limit (65) needed to remove wallet from back pocket. unbuckled seat belt why still moving at maximum speed limit. upon unbuckling seat belt engine immediate shut off and vehicle came to involuntary stop within approximately 5 seconds. fortunately, the vehicle following was alert and stopped in time to avoid serious rear end accident. very concerning if this occurs and owners are not notified of the danger we experienced.
Owners say you would not dare to ban elon's autopilot! https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/red-hands-of-shame.77954/page-2 s4wrxttcs, green1 said: ↑ you keep claiming that the nhtsa has secretly ordered tesla to disable things on peoples cars. either provide the statement from the nhtsa, or agree that tesla is doing this of their own accord. the nhtsa tends to work with manufactures they give the manufacture a chance to comply with what they "recommend" without officially ordering them to do anything. us corporations hate regulation, and tend to bend over backwards to avoid it. in the us you can't even watch a viagra commercial without part of the ad being dedicated to saying that it won't prevent std's. like how in the world would i even get it in my mind that it would? green1 alberta, canada new if you want the added hold wheel nags, feel free to install the downgrade. there is nothing stopping you from doing so. i'm just pointing out that i don't have to. and that tesla has no legal ability to force me to do so. they are free to change the way things work for new owners, but they have no legal ability to make any changes whatsoever to someone else's property without that person's express consent. in fact that is almost guaranteed to be the whole reason why you have to accept software updates manually. they have the ability to push them automatically, but their lawyers probably didn't want to deal with the legal fallout of that one, this way they can show you consented. there has never, in the entire history of automotive transport, been even a single time when the government has forced owners to comply with an official recall, they certainly won't be forcing it for something that they won't even go on record as having required. enjoy your nags. it's your choice.
I drove the car into a parking space at the school (desert christian elementary) in tucson arizona on sept 16th about 11:05 am, when the car accelerated on its own (unintended acceleration) and crashed into 2 parked vehicles and airbags deployed and i sustained a fracture of my right arm requiring surgery. also my car (the tesla model s) was damaged and the two other parked cars.
I am a concerned citizen from outside usa and i am filing this complaint for the safety of the public. fictitious usa address supplied and vin of a wrecked tesla to comply with website requirements. my correct phone number is +61 416114689 (australia) here is a thread from a web forum in norway that discusses instances of total brake failure. digiman jr. member a: total brake failure reply # 78 on: today at. 7:59 p.m. " quote from: muffinman on today at. 6:51 p.m. sounds almost too me like you should not have gotten this "nordic edition" brake package on the new car? could it really be that they still deliver the new cars without? the last few days i have been almost bremsels on d`en after starting with conditions prevailing in mre and trndelag coast. has run very much and been conscious of using the brakes - that actually works just fine when the car is parked. when i take away the next day there are roughly zero effect, and it must be slowed a great deal before they begin to catch up. alternatively to just run and wait for the car yourself using slow drying enough times that it starts working again. same problem on my 85d. was quite stressed first time i was going to brake after parking overnight recently. had no regen because 100% soc. there is a slight hill down from the residential area i live in and had zero brakes on the approximately 20-30m to the crossroads. the brakes took luckily just before i got to the main road. very scary as this is a way to school full of kids every morning, so running in the top 10 to 15 km / h there now tesla looking at this next week. can not possibly be correct this? source http://elbilforum.no/forum/index.php/topic,26163.0.html