Problems with 2006 Honda Civic SUSPENSION

tl*the contact owns a 2006 honda civic si. he noticed that the rear left and right tires were loosing tread on the inside. he replaced all four tires in july of 2009. the vehicle was making a noise in the rear. he will add an adjuster to the control arm. the failure mileage was 37,000 and the current mileage was 40,000. updated 12/8/09 *cn the tire shop stated the camber was off in the rear and there was no adjustment that could be done. updated 12/09/09. *jb

Tire noise during driving. progressively getting worse over 2 months. found rear tire inner wear (cupping) on driver side. honda is aware of this problem and is repairing the vehicle. honda will not cover the tire replacement of pay pro-rated amount because vehicle has over 25k miles. i drive 90% highway and tires still have 40% life remaining. *tr

Tires wear and cup. major vibration and noise while driving at highway speeds. newest set of tires have rear tires cupped to the point of needing replaced at 10,000 miles. company has issued a bulletin on the issue but never informed customer. we thought our first tires were the problem but come to find out the rear arms need to be replaced to try to fix issue. car is now out of warranty. winter of 2007 husband did 3 360's across 3 lanes of highway without any warning. *tr

Tl* the contact owns a 2006 honda civic hybrid. the contact stated the alignment of the rear upper control arm was defective and causing the inside of the tires to wear prematurely. the contact would have the tires rotated at each oil change, and the failure would persist. the dealer advised any repairs would be at the contact's expense. the vehicle was not repaired. the manufacturer would not provide any assistance. the failure mileage was 70,000 and the current mileage was 89,000. updated 09/29/10 *bf the consumer stated the problem was corrected at no cost to him, except for the alignment. updated 10/01/00*jb

09/07 - took 2006 honda civic hybrid in for service due to excessive vibration at speed. was told tires were cupping despite excellent, documented vehicle maintenance (tire balancing, alignment and rotations incl.). dealership/honda finally agreed to replace 3 tires, i paid for fourth. (dunlop tire defect was assumed cause) 03/09 - vibration and tire noise began to recur in approx. feb 09 but didn't get vehicle in for service until 3/14/09. diagnosis revealed cupping again. this time i was told that a feb 2009 honda service bulletin suggested to dealerships that if their civic owners complained of excessive/premature tire wear they should replace the rear upper control arms with the newly redesigned arms. the dealership rep stated that since this was not a safety issue no recall was required. i disagree that this is not a safety issue. my tires, after only 15,000 mi. are seriously worn. so much so that honda is refusing to replace or even give partial credit. if these tires would have blown on the road costly property damage, serious injury or even fatalities could occur. if this defect warranted the redesigning of an integral piece of the vehicles suspension system, then i strongly urge you to mandate that honda replace these parts in all affected vehicles on the road. the only reason i found out about this was because of the vibration issue, not from notification from honda. what about people that don't go to the dealership for service? how large does the potential loss of property/life have to be before the public is warned of this? *tr

I have a 2006 honda civic hybrid, which is exhibiting excessive and uneven rear tire wear. the tires were initially replaced in feb. 2008, and again in june 2008 (along with the rear control arms). now, in february 2009, the rear tires are worn out again on the inside, with cupping and scalloping of the tread. these tires have less than 20,000 miles since new, and have been rotated. this appears to be a common problem with the civic, and this problem is not being addressed or fixed by honda. *tr

I'm an owner of a honda civic ex '06, which was purchased brand new in 2006. after getting a flat tire (rear right side), my car was taken in to another dealer (not honda) and had all 4 tires replaced. the car had 39k miles on it. at the time, it was suggested that the car should be taken into honda to be inspected for uneven tire wear. i searched the internet and found out that other people had experienced the same problem with that model/year of car and there was even a service bulletin about it. after the inspection, honda stated that yes indeed, the uneven tire wear was due to a known problem with the rear upper control arms and that it must be replaced in order to correct the problem. honda wouldn't pay for it at the time since my warranty had already expired. i just want to write this notification because they should not be selling cars that has a potential safety hazard (especially when driving in rain or snow). *tr

At 55k miles, we have just installed our third full set of tires on 2006 honda civic lx. the original tires lasted approx 35k. we heard loud growling from rear tires, initially at higher speeds, then progressively lower speeds. this was accompanied by vehicle vibration which seemed to increase exponentially w/increased speed. discovered online about issues w/civic's rear control arms. took the car to dealer, who advised the tires were unevenly worn. in fact there were completely bald spots, while appropriate tread remained elsewhere on each tire. dealer agreed to replace control arms only after we replaced the tires.. we bore entire cost of replacement tires. after six months and 20k miles, including one tire rotation, the noise and vibration returned, this time on front end. could this be because the front right tire wore unevenly while initially on back? took car back to honda dealer, who said "tires were wearing unevenly; they need to be replaced." no acknowledgment of any issues w/civic model. tire dealer pro-rated replacement tires [still a bunch of $$$], said they'd never had that "better" [70k] model of tire wear so unevenly. [cupping/feathering] it seems honda's "fix" wasn't really. i am genuinely concerned for my family's safety; we will likely sell the car asap. i am also concerned that some civic owner out there will be unable to afford replacement tires and just continue to drive on worthless rubber. since honda will not concede the problem, they refuse to absorb the cost of tires. nor does honda seem particularly interested in resolving this problem. i have been astounded by the total lack of concern at honda. when, because it will happen, there is a resulting catastrophic tire failure, i hope its not at 75mph on a crowded interstate highway. *tr

Tl*the contact owns a 2006 honda civic. the contact stated that the rear tires wore unevenly. the contact referenced a related tsb for the lower control arm, dated january 22, 2008. the vehicle had three sets of new tires since it was purchased and the lower control arm was replaced by an authorized dealer february 17, 2009. the failure continued and the vehicle needed another set of tires at the time of the complaint. the contact called the manufacturer who stated that they could offer no assistance. the failure mileage was approximately 15,000. the current mileage was 66,163.

Tl*the contact owns a 2006 honda civic hybrid. the contact stated that the tires are causing road noise due to a faulty rear lower control arm. the failure wears the tires down and could cause a blowout. a tsb was issued, but not a recall. the contact feels that a recall should be issued for this component since the manufacturer is aware of the failure. the current mileage was 94,105 and failure mileage was 85,000.

I purchased a 2006 honda civic new from dealer with 100k mile warranty. they will not fix this issue. the suspension is faulty, causing the rear two tires to wear out on the inside of the tread within 15k miles. i've spent money for 4 sets of tires so far, and they won't fix it. they acknowledge that it's their problem, but there is no solution. i cannot understand how a company can produce a vehicle they know can't be aligned to not eat up tires. *tr

I am writing to let you know about the disappointing experience i had recently with my 2006 honda civic. 1.on november 26, 2008, the service advisor told me that i would need new tires soon. i then mentioned to him that the tires were very loud and the car seemed to be making excessive road noise. he said nothing about my comment. 2.on december 21, 2008, i noticed that the tires on the civic were worn down very unevenly and one of them was buckling. i did not want to drive with those tires any longer due to safety issues and proceeded to buy 4 new tires the following day, december 22, 2008. 3.after the tire purchase and reviewing honda service bulletin 08-001 (dated april 11, 2008), i decided to return to my honda dealer as i became concerned that this was only the beginning of a larger problem. as it turns out, i was right. 4.the service bulletin describes exactly what was happening with my car. as the car was and is still under warranty, the work was covered at no cost to me. however, i paid for 4 new tires and i think american honda motor co., inc should cover this cost. in addition, this is a revised service bulletin from february 8, 2008 and no one ever informed me that my car might have this problem. clearly there was a defect with this car. this car was well maintained and the original tires should have lasted well over 30,000 miles. the service advisor who assisted me on december 22, 2008 insisted that this was not a safety issue nor did it warrant a recall on the 2006 honda civic. as a proactive consumer, it was my good fortune to be able to access the service bulletin, and point out that these 'symptoms' were occurring with my car. if i had not had the problem with the rear upper control arm repaired at the dealer, the defect would have ruined my brand new set of tires. by that time, the car would no longer be under warranty and i would have incurred the cost to fix it when honda was well aware of the problem. *tr

I am the original owner of this 2006 honda civic, which i just put on a 3rd set of new tires before the car has reached 90,000 miles. even with perfect alignment, they are wearing bald on the inside of the tire, therefore, a huge safety issue. the car sways in the back. *tr

2006 honda civic lx with 20,500 miles. rear tires are nearly bald. dealer indicates that there is a known rear suspension problem. honda notified dealers of problem in april 2008 and dealers are addressing concerns when the vehicles are brought in. my son drives this vehicles to and from college and we bought the car for safety reasons. we expect that honda will replace the worn tires since it was their defect but the dealer has not offered to replace the tires. *tr

2006 honda civic flat spots in rear tires 3 sets of tires have been put on car .honda is not taking responsibility for problem with rear suspension problems causing this problem. *tr

We bought a 2006 honda civic in sept. 2005. in 2007 we began having vibration problems, found we were have tire issues when we went to our local tire shop, we replaced the tires, we mentioned this to the dealer when we went in for regular maintenance, they seemed unconcerned. in 2008 we had a recurrence of the same problem and went to our sears store, who confirmed tire wear, and we again replaced the tires. this seemed odd, so we then made an appointment for inspection. at this time the dealer told us of a "special bulletin" for a suspension design flaw, not a recall, and we took the car in for the "kit" update, which we had to pay for as it was not a recall! we are now having the same "vibration" problem, have been to the dealer, who tells us the suspension is fine and recommends replacing the two rear tires for "cupping" on one of them. we are well under warranty for the tires but in all likelihood as the suspension is probably the issue(per sears on the phone), they won't be covered. so.. once again we are replacing tires, which we are certain are wearing down due to a suspension problem (short rear upper control arms)after reading the online forums where every problem we have and have had is being discussed for our make, model and year. please help us make honda aware that they need to take responsibility for causing costly tire replacements. apparently the solution is replacement of the control arms and honda will not bear the replacement cost of tires that their design flaw has and continues to cause. honda is well aware of the problem. *tr

Improperly designed rear suspension keeps wearing the inside of the tires away causing them to be unsafe for operation. *tr

On the days leading up to the incident, heard a roaring in my tires. on wed. aug 20th. i heard a loud pop coming from the rear of my car. drove into work, left work and rear passenger tire was tilted inward. had to get tow truck take it to dealership. on 8/22, clerk at dealership stated that the rear upper control arm had broke. she said they looked at it and believed it was a "leaky shock", i knew that wasn't the case. they then said it was result of an accident my car was involved in 2 years ago!!!. i contacted insurance company and they immediately said that accident couldn't have caused that major damage. insurance adjuster told dealership same thing. i was told that it was not a defect. from my documentation and research, there's numerous complaints about the rear upper control arms on the 06 & 07 honda civics. i was told that my extended warranty would not be honored and i had to pay for what i know is a defect at the manufacturer. i've complained to honda hq with no action being taken thus far. i'm frazzled!! i can't believe they won't own up to this defect!! i need help with this!! i can't afford to pay for the repairs. please respond asap!! they are still saying it's related to "an accident"(non-existent). *tr

Started hearing a rotational noise from back wheels of car. it got louder as speed increased. took to honda dealer. they performed a service bulletin to replace the rear upper control arms and did alignment. the incorrect parts were installed at the factory. however, the bad parts allowed the rear tires to 'cup' causing the noise. the dealer (and manufacturer) are refusing to do anything about the premature tire wear caused by the incorrect parts installed during manufacturer. *tr

Noted loud tire wear and excessive vibration from the rear at speeds in excess of 45mph. took the car to the dealer and they replaced the rear upper control arms per a honda tsb. however, they would not cover any %of the tire replacement- which is, of course, a direct consequence of the faulty control arms. driving with "chopped" tires is a known hazard, which the honda corporation is promoting by virtue of not taking responsibility for being the cause of the problem. further, the tsb should be upgraded to a "recall". *tr

Tl*the contact owns a 2006 honda civic. while driving 35 mph, the contact noticed a growling sound coming from the rear of the vehicle. the dealer stated that the rear passenger side bearing needed to be replaced. there were no warnings prior to the failure. the failure mileage was 61,000 and current mileage was 64,355. updated 09/29/08. *lj updated 09/29/08.

I was under the vehicle and noticed the rear tire tread was bald on the inside. the outside was still showing plenty of tread. the tire was very close to failure, but it is difficult to notice the uneven wear unless you are under the vehicle. the internet showed many people with the same problem. apparently the control arms are failing on many of the vehicles. honda issued a service bulletin to dealerships but has not notified the owners. *tr

when my tire store showed me my 20,000 mile tire with the steel belts exposed i was stunned-what if no one had seen it? a subsequent alignment check revealed the rear suspension of my 2006 honda civic had much more negative camber than is safe and there is no way to adjust it as in other cars-it is a design flaw. because of the high mileage on my car,it may be a bell weather. i have 150,000 miles on my 2006 civic and have bought 5 sets of tires that are supposed to last 70,000 miles each. the entire time my car was under warranty honda did not officially admit the problem or offer a solution. honda dealers and corporate reps are generally uncooperative and will not issue a public recall and generally have to be pressured to do anything about this substantial problem. your shedding light on this issue would be a true public service and probably help thousands of people who are not used to dealing with a large corporation with an unreproachable image of public responsibility. there are many more honda customers like me- this honda users group will offer more perspective. http://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/f12/negative-camber-problem-what-you-need-do-get-upper-control-arms-replaced-17377/#post164501 w. scott moyer *tr

Premature tire wear on my 2006 honda civic. the car is 3 years old and i am on my third set of tires. i have had alignment checks every 6 months and i have had my tires rotated every 6,000 miles. *tr

Rear upper control arms on 2006/2007 civics were manufactured too short yet installed at the factory and sold in new cars. this, in turn, caused the rear of the vehicle to slide and kick out while in turns, especially in the rain. it also caused the rear tires to wear excessively fast. i had to take my car to the honda dealer 3 times before they admitted they had issued a tsb that gave the dealers the ok to replace the parts, properly align the car, and cover the tires only if it had less than 25,000 miles on it. i find this to be a very dangerous practice on hondas part and feel a recall should have been issued because it is a safety concern. tsbs are only distributed to the dealers, not the end consumer. therefore if a an owner doesnt go to the dealer, they are never aware the car is unsafe. my request is to make honda issue a recall of the effected cars, not just issue a tsb whereas its the same as a you-call and make the owners responsible for the rapid tire wear $. shame on honda.

Rear suspension, premature tire wear: 2006 civic si, turned down at dealer even with warranty in hand at about 30,000 miles for repair or replacement of rear control arm/parts without paying out of pocket. states not covered. have had the problem since and 4 wheel alignment is not the remedy. notice bad cupping to inner rear tires and harsh vibrations and noise. *tr

Cupping of rear tires caused by rear control arm premature wear. parts not covered by a recall, car out of warranty, cost to replace faulty control arm, $453.00, cost to replace ruined tires, $200.00. due to the fact that this part is not on a recall at this time, no action has been taken, the faulty part is still on my car. the replacement part is on back order because of high demand for replacement on other cars like mine. *tr

A rumbling noise emanating from the rear that has progressively increased in volume from ~12k to 38k miles. recently noticed extreme wear on the inside of both rear tires and a pronounced toe out of both rear wheels. i also had several close calls from hydroplaning emanating from the rear. numerous entries on the net indicated a serious problem with 06 to 08 civic rear control arms and a service bulletin issued 1/08 to replace these control arms. i was not contacted or informed in any way of this bulletin even though i had my 06 honda civic at my dealer in may 08. after realizing the severity of the problem ie. pure safety issue and running into denials and resistance from both pfluegar and tony honda on oahu i called honda corp. in california and they are going to deal with tony honda for replacement of the arms. honda must announce a recall on this serious defect before there is a rash of accidents/deaths due to their unconscionable conduct regarding replacing this seriously defective part. contacted pfluegar honda honolulu. *tr

Tl* the contact owns a 2006 honda civic. the contact took the vehicle to an independent mechanic for a tire rotation and alignment. the maintenance was declined due to a failure with both rear tires. the details were not provided to the contact. the vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. the manufacturer was notified of the failure. the failure mileage was not available. updated 01/11/2017*ct; similar complaints were noted nationwide for civic 2006, wrong parts were installed as oem in the new car sold updated 04/16/18*jb *tr

I recently bought new tires and the steel tried is showing through. honda dealership said that honda was aware of the problem and, if i bought new tires, that they would give me a free alignment. not cool seeing as honda should give me new tires and fix the problem. my car now makes loud noises due to the tires and, with all the other fixes i am having to get, i am rethinking honda's commitment to customer satisfaction. i am thinking of trading it in for a prius. *tr

A very loud road noise has been coming from the rear of the car. my car would not pass inspection because the tires were worn down. i was told by the honda dealer that i need 4 new tires (33,394 miles) because there is excessive play in the rear control arms, as per honda service bulletin. we are awaiting the arrival of the parts and the work will be covered under the warranty. service will take place on june 16th. however, the tires are not covered at all by the warranty. i'm also concerned there might be other damage to the suspension or bearings that they aren't admitting to. *tr

My wife took my honda civic 2006 sedan to goodyear tire for routine oil change and tire rotate. they discovered unusual uneven ware on the rear tires. goodyear would not do the rotation and noted left rear shock blown and tires are cupped, needs 4 tires and aligned soon. they advised taking it back to honda dealer and have checked. honda service agreed with goodyear that both struts are blown and needs the rear control arm kit. they wanted to split the cost of the struts and control arm repairs totaling $594.21 leaving me to foot $297.11. i would pay for new tires. i later became aware that there is a defect know by honda and there is a bulletin out about this (08-001/nhtsa item number 10024687). i have found many more complaints about the same problem on various internet sites. i feel they are totally responsible and i plan to contact the pa attorney general if they do not correct problem and damage to the tires at their expense. *tr

Rear tires on 2006 civic had to be replaced due to rear suspension geometry that could have been avoided had honda installed rear upper control arm kit stated in honda service bulletin 08-001 dated jan 22 2008 i had to pay for replacement tires. *tr

This 2006 honda civic hybrid wears out the rear tires within one tire rotation. the inner edges of both rear tires wear away causing instability of vehicle especially on wet surfaces. honda is replacing the rear upper control arms under warranty as per a technical service bulletin but are not covering tires worn out after 21,000 miles. this vehicle has had 2 four wheel alignments and 2 tires replaced by honda prior to getting control arms. i am now trying to get them to pay for the 2nd set of tires it has worn out. i believe there defect in the rear suspension geometry is putting people at risk by wearing out tires prematurely. *tr

i heard a loud humming noise coming from the tires on the rear drivers side. the dealer replaced the rear hub and the noise stopped for about 8-10 thousand miles. i later found that they had issued a recall. i brought the car back and this time they had to replaced the upper control arms. honda issued a service bulletin on this problem and i am reading many complaints on edmund's internet sight complaining about the same issue on the 2006-2007 civics. the problem with the suspension ruined the tires on the car and caused an unsafe condition. the dealer did change the upper control arms but the car continues to make noise in the rear. the dealer tells me its the tires and the cupping in the tires is the fault of the tire, not the car which it not true. i called honda and they refuse to replace the tires but admitted that they have a problem with the upper control arms on their cars. are they waiting for someone to get killed when a tire blows out to notify people of the problem? *tr

I have a 2006 honda civic. i have had to replace the rear tires on it 4 times since april of 2007. i contacted honda today, december 2, 2008 after finding a bulletin that they posted about the problem, but because my vehicle is now out of warranty they refuse to reimburse me or pay to get this fixed. it states in the bulletin that the rear upper control arm is too short and that it causes uneven and rapid rear tire wear, as well as vibration at highway speeds. this is a hazard for me driving the vehicle as it is, but i do not have the money to keep replacing tires, nor do i have the money to get it fixed on my own. if they had sent me some type of notice or something i would have gotten this fixed while my vehicle was still under warranty. things like this should be fixed by the manufacturer, or dealership for no charge because they are a hazard to us as drivers, and expensive to fix. *tr

Lower control arm snapped and broke while driving on interstate traffic. *tr

The 2006 honda civic has a rear suspension defect that causes extreme and dangerous rear tire wear. my new civic was showing steel belts on the rear tires at 19,000 miles - detectable only by the extreme noise and kneeling to see the tire surface and the protruding steel belts. honda, and its dealers, had consistently maintained that there was no issue with the 2006 civic rear suspension, even though i'd spent almost 100 hours of my time, including multiple trips to the dealer. they blamed everyone involved except themselves - my aggressive driving, the oem bridgestone tires, lack of rotation, the phase of the moon, you. only when threatened with my lawsuit did they admit that there was a problem, and tell me that i could have my rear end modified by my dealer at honda's expense to solve my problem. having said this - they have announced no general recall or notification actions, nor has the nhtsa - to whom i'd complained a year ago. only if you have the tenacity and determination to take on honda and threaten to sue them do they acknowledge the problem and offer a fix. the complicity of honda and the nhtsa on this matter is immoral, if not criminal. *tr

Tl*the contact owns a 2006 honda civic. the contact experienced tire failure on wet roads. he noticed that the rear tire was completely bald. he took the vehicle to the dealer and they stated that he would be responsible for purchasing new tires. the dealer made other repairs to the vehicle's control arm due to excessive tire wear. the repairs totaled $250. the failure mileage was 21,000 and current mileage is 33,984. updated 09/10/08. *lj

There was noise in the backend of my car. 2006 honda civic come to find out that there is service bulletin on the rear control arms. the control arms that are on the car now cause the rear tires to wear unevenly or rapidly. the service bulletin number is sb08-100. this could cause a blow out to happen on the highway which at those speeds could cause injury or death. think it is something that should be looked into. *tr

My rear tires cup and make excessive road noise and causes car to shake. honda replaced the control arms as part of a service bulletin and paid for half the cost of new tires. however, the problem continues and honda won't do anything. i took the car to a local service garage after honda claimed it was now an alignment issue. local service garage told me alignment was all within specs. i've found through research on the internet and discussions with other owners that this is a very common problem. *tr

I purchased my 2006 honda civic new. at 18 months it started making a roaring noise from the rear end. it also started vibrating badly at 65mph. when i got the oil changed in it, i asked the honda motorwerks dealer in la crosse, wi to check the tires for rotation. i was told the tires were fine. two months later at 37,800 miles i am taking the car back for louder roaring and more vibration. my search on the internet revealed that honda issued a technical service bulletin on 8feb08 stating that the rear control on all 2006 and 2007 honda civics were effected and need to be repaired. i contacted american honda and was told that each case would be handled by the dealer on a case by case basis. i asked about the tires that were ruined by the defective control arms, and i was told that i they were covered under the tire manufacturer warranty. i said that the tires were not defective, rather they were prematurely worn because of a honda defect. she gave me the same answer again. if this defect applies to all 2006 and 2007n civics, then it applies to several hundred thousand vehicles. i feel honda should recall all of the civics and not wait until the owners complain or get hurt because the tires wear out early and cause a crash. *tr

Uneven tire wear. excessive noise from rear. i've had the vehicle 2 years and have had the wheels aligned several times and have the tires rotated as necessary by honda or firestone. *tr

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Rear suspension problems with my '06 civic lx led to premature tire wear. have an alignment policy with a local tire store & have it done on a regular basis. even they commented on the wear and said must be another problem with rear suspension. honda has a service bulletin 08-001 dated 2/8/08 on this matter. just want this procedure done to fix the problem so my new tires don't suffer the same fate as the oem tires. *tr

Tl*the contact owns a 2006 honda civic. while driving approximately 45 mph the road surface was covered with black ice and snow. the vehicle uncontrollably wandered across the road. an authorized dealer inspected the vehicle and replaced the rear axle linkage according to the service warranty. the contact had concerns of the safety risk involved. the failure mileage was 15,000. the current mileage was 63,000. updated 1/11/09 *cn the rear upper control arm needed to be replaced. updated 01/14/10.*jb

Rear camber could not be adjusted to zero. tires were wearing out early on inside edge. after market part allows camber to be adjusted to zero. firestone dealer said this is a problem with civics and the after market part is available for several model years. similar statement was made by previous tire dealer in 2006 (30k miles) but unable to order parts at that time. *tr

Tl*the contact owns a 2006 honda civic. the contact stated that there was a defect with the suspension, which causes difficulty steering and prematurely wears the tires down. the dealer stated that they would not make repairs. the failure mileage was 24,000.

Tl*the contact owns a 2006 honda civic. while driving 65 mph, the rear struts punctured the rear tires, causing the vehicle to "ride like an older vehicle". the contact took the vehicle to the dealer and they stated that the rear struts and rear tires needed to be changed. he also received a recall notice for nhtsa campaign id number 07v399000 (service brakes, hydraulic:antilock:wheel speed sensor), which he believed was related to another issue that required him to pay out of pocket. the current mileage was approximately 60,000 and failure mileage was approximately 30,000.

Rear camber set wrong, no adjustment, premature tire wear, bad car handling. especially on irregular road service or man hole covers ,car side jumps . honda does not recognize this as issue because of the expense to repair. *tr