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Problems with 2012 Ford Expedition POWER TRAIN

On average, the 2012 Ford Expedition starts to “feel” problems with the POWER TRAIN and its various aspects after 90 784 miles.

Recently reported POWER TRAIN problems on 2012 Ford Expedition

My 2012 exhibition exhibits the same symptoms that are described in recall# 12v190000. while at highway speeds; speedometer drops to zero, transmission shifts to 5th gear and when the breaks are applied downsifts to 1st gear causing wheel hop and possible loss of control and injury. it was manufactured in the included time frame and at the included kentucky manufacturing plant, yet the vehicle is not eligible for the recall repair because it is not listed in the recall registration system so dealers won't fix it. this is a expensive repair recall with potentially fatal consequences.

There have been several instances. the first one i was pulling out of a parking lot onto a main road when the transmission stopped pulling, acted like it was in neutral. i pulled over turned off the engine and restarted it and it was fine. the next was on a 2 lane highway cruising at about 50 mph, the vehicle jerked, locked up the rear tires, went into limp mode, check engine light came on and code was p0270 for the output speed sensor. sysmptons are the same as described in fords recall #16s19 but i was told by ford that my vehicle was not covered under the recall because of the build date although the same transmission a d components were used. the instance happened again today with my wife and 3 young children in the vehicle, cruising approx 60 mph on the highway, rear wheels locked up, transmission downshifts to first gear, vehicle skids toward the edge of an embankment, just before getting there the wheels unlock and my wife is able to make it to a near by church parking lot to pull over and turn the engine off.

While driving at freeway speeds (60-65mph) there's a very noticeable "clank" when the transmission shifts. especially when driving at an incline at 1,800-2,000 rpm. i have to keep vehicle above that speed or at a different rpm range.

While driving my vehicle off of homestead rdmy truck slams into 1st gear just randomly sometimes while im driving fast and sometime when i'm driving slow i think the back wheels locked at one point putting me into oncoming traffic but it released just in the nick of time to get out of the way i was very scared i'm still worried to drive it but as of right now it's my only means of transportation so i just drive carefully i've heard of other trucks like mine doing this but mine isn't recalled only other ones

Tl* the contact owns a 2012 ford expedition. while starting the ignition, all the interior lights illuminated, but the vehicle would not start. the vehicle was towed to thoroughbred ford (8501 n boardwalk ave, kansas city, mo 64154) where they stated that the vehicle was not included in nhtsa campaign number: 16v248000 (power train). the contact also stated that the transmission sensor needed to be replaced. the manufacturer was made aware of the failure and did not assist. the vehicle was not repaired. the failure mileage was 126,000.

Tl* the contact owns a 2012 ford expedition. while driving, the low fuel indicator illuminated, all the lighting on the instrument panel flickered, and the vehicle decelerated. the contact coasted the vehicle to the side of the road and powered off the engine. when the vehicle was restarted, the instrument panel was reset and the vehicle was able to drive normally. the failure recurred. the vehicle was taken to all star ford (located at 2586 range park dr, denham springs, la 70726, (225) 490-7649) where it was diagnosed that the lead frame speed sensor of the transmission needed to be replaced. the vehicle was in the process of being repaired. the manufacturer was notified of the failure and informed the contact that the vin was not included in a recall. the approximate failure mileage was 108,000.

Tl* the contact owns a 2012 ford expedition. while driving 60 mph, the transmission seized and the vehicle skidded down the roadway. the contact was assisted by a police officer with diverting traffic to have the vehicle safely moved off of the roadway. additionally, while driving 45 mph, the failure recurred. the vehicle was taken to bell road ford (located at 2401 w. bell road, phoenix, az 85023, (602)457-2144) where it was diagnosed that the power train control module needed to be reprogrammed. the vehicle was repaired per nhtsa campaign number: 16v248000 (power train); however, the failure recurred. the manufacturer was notified of the failure. the approximate failure mileage was 111,628. *bf *tr

Tl* the contact owns a 2012 ford expedition. while driving various speeds, the vehicle decelerated to 0 mph. the contact stated that the vehicle downshifted independently and the speedometer decreased to 0 mph. furthermore, the contact stated that the vehicle was still in motion when the rpms decreased to 0 mph. the vehicle was driven to the contact's residence. joe myers ford (16634 northwest freeway, houston, texas 77040, (713) 766-3600) was made aware of the failure and replaced the transmission lead frame. the manufacturer stated that the vehicle was not associated with nhtsa campaign number: 16v248000 (power train). the failure mileage was 115,341.*dt *js

Tl* the contact owns a 2012 ford expedition. while driving approximately 65 mph, the vehicle jerked and the check engine warning indicator illuminated. the contact also stated that the failure worsened when the vehicle was driven above 50 mph. the vehicle was not taken to a dealer or an independent mechanic for diagnostic testing. the manufacturer was notified of the failure. the vehicle was not repaired. the approximate failure mileage was 128,000.

I have the same year, make, model, transmission and the same exact unexpected malfunction with the lead frame as what the recall number 16s19 is for happened 3 separate times. one time was with my wife, two children under the age of 5 and myself on a busy road right after a downhill blind curve where many bad accidents happen from speeders. the reason my vehicle is not being recalled because it was manufactured less than 60 days after the recall dates for the malfunctioning vehicles. so i have to come put of my pocket $750+ to get it fixed when ford motor company who i have been with for 15 years now is refusing to accept that the problem is still active is other expeditions out side of the dates of the 2012 recalls. all it's going to take is just one time for something bad to happen or any type of accident due to this problem and i will be seeing ford motor company in court. i am so bothered by this, i have reached the point to where i will most likely not give ford another penny of mine.

On a busy street the vehicle abruptly downshifted into first gear and would not go any faster. it was struck in a lower gear as we were on a road that has traffic going at 55 mph. this occurred on three different occasions.

Ford expdetion lead frame recall. i experienced an unexpected downshift in my vehicle. this was attributed to lead frame on my car. this issue was addressed by a recall but my vehicle was not included.

Tl* the contact owns a 2012 ford expedition. while driving approximately 60 mph, the vehicle inadvertently downshifted to first gear. there were no warning indicators illuminated. the contact coasted the vehicle to the shoulder, turned off the engine, restarted the vehicle and it returned to normal operation. on april 3, 2018, the same failure occurred. the vehicle was not taken to the dealer or an independent mechanic for diagnostic testing. the manufacturer was not notified of the failure. the vehicle was not repaired. the approximate failure mileage was 95,000. *tt the consumer stated the vehicle was diagnosed and repaired by coggin deland ford on april 11, 2018. *tr *ln*jb

We took the vehicle to our local ford service center approx. aug. 2017 with mileage at approx. 54000 miles while the vehicle was still covered under factory warranty. we were experiencing a sudden downshift in the transmission when driving in city streets. the instrument cluster would show the speed at 0 mph and the message --- miles to empty would display. the dealership was not able to pull any codes at that time or duplicate the symptoms on the vehicle. our vin was not covered under any recall. we were not charged. no check engine light has ever displayed until april 5th, 2018. i was driving the vehicle on the highway in heavy traffic going 75 mph. the vehicle suddenly downshifted causing me to pull over onto the shoulder. current mileage is 60400. the instrument cluster did the same thing as previously. the check engine light and wrench light came on as well. i took the vehicle in to an auto parts store to get scanned and they pulled code p0270. it is my understanding that ford is expanding their recall due to more complaints. we have an appointment for april 24, 2018. fortunately, we have a ford extended service plan. the deductible is $100.00. i believe this vehicle is experiencing the conditions under ford's recall number 16s19, nhtsa campaign number: 16v248000. this is my wife's primary vehicle. she has experienced the sudden downshift on many occasions lately but no check engine light. my wife states that she has to pull over and turn the vehicle off. a few minutes later she restarts the vehicle and the symptoms sometimes quit. sometimes it takes a few cycles of turning the vehicle on and off for them to go away. her route to work involves a lot of highway traffic with a lot of semi's (tractor trailer's) due to where we live (oil field traffic). safety is my main concern. i have her text me every day when she arrives to work(school) with our 9yr old son.

Tl* the contact owns a 2012 ford expedition. while driving approximately 70 mph, the vehicle downshifted without warning and the rear tires seized. the vehicle was taken to joe myers ford (16634 northwest fwy, houston, tx 77040) where it was confirmed that the vin was not included in nhtsa campaign number: 16v248000 (power train). the vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. the manufacturer was made aware of the failure and referred the contact to nhtsa. the approximate failure mileage was 91,000.

Recall tsb 13-6-8 vehicle built in kentucky truck plant july 2012 equipped with 6r80 transmission exhibits engagement in 5th gear. wrench light comes on, speedometer reads zero and odometer displays dashes while driving. ford states it is not part of recall. ford diagnosed problem with solution of replacing molded leadframe.

Vehicle downshifts while driving at different speeds. panel reads, flat tires, no fuel, no gauges will work. i was pulling out of a gas station on a major hwy, i gave the vehicle gas to enter the lane, as i was approaching a higher speed , my vehicle downshifted and the vehicle behind me had to slam on their breaks to avoid hitting me in the back. another time at a high rate of speed on an interstate , as i was switching lanes, my vehicle downshifts almost causing another wreck. if it had not been for car seats, my grandchildren would have hit the floor. if it had not been for the other drivers quick actions, people could have been injured or even worse dead. after a few more incidents, i find out a recall for this problem was made, but not on my vehicle . same year, same model, same factory, just not my vin! recall 16s19- nhtsa id# 16v248000 . my vehicle has 74,000 miles on it, so it is not covered under a warranty. notice i'm attached picture. 0 mph, but look at the 2000 rpm. check engine light on. i have a video of it doing this several times.

Vehicle, while traveling, will downshift into lower gear and clunk. yellow wrench warning light will illuminate and speedometer with drop to zero all while still moving. a series of additional warning lights will appear. vehicle will loose power to only limp mode. warning will reset upon shutting off engine. this has happened twice.

Tl* the contact owns a 2012 ford expedition. while driving approximately 2 mph, the vehicle independently downshifted. the check engine, fuel, and tire sensor warning indicators illuminated. in addition, the speedometer failed. the vehicle was taken to rivertown ford (1680 whittlesey rd, columbus, ga 31904) where it was diagnosed that the led frame needed to be replaced. the vehicle was not repaired. the failure recurred several times. the manufacturer was notified of the failure and opened a case to be sent to the dealer. the failure mileage was 143,115. the vin was not available.

While driving vehicle on a city street it down shifted and caused tires to skid. i contacted ford motor company after researching the problem and finding a recall for this situation (16s19). however they informed me that my vehicle is not included in the recall.

Our 2012 expedition is experiencing repeated intermittent loss of transmission output and unexpected downshift into first gear (as noted in the ford recall notice dated april 2016). this is a major safety risk for our family. we bought the vehicle as a certified ford, but the recall hadn't been addressed. to deal with the problem, we brought the vehicle to another ford dealer. the dealer said they made the repair specified in recall notice (control module reprogramming), but that didn't solve the problem: the intermittent loss of transmission output continues. now the recall notice has been removed from our record and the recall notice is no longer associated with vin. this is unacceptable. we need this to be repaired!

Tl* the contact owns a 2012 ford expedition. while driving 65 mph, the vehicle downshifted into first gear independently and the power train sensor illuminated. the vehicle was repaired per nhtsa campaign number: 16v248000 (power train), but the recall remedy failed to repair the vehicle. the vehicle was serviced at legacy ford of mcdonough (located at 413 industrial blvd, mcdonough, ga, 30253), but the failure recurred the next day. the contact was informed to bring the vehicle back. the contact informed the dealer that she was afraid to drive the vehicle due to the failure. the dealer informed the contact that she could take the vehicle to any other ford dealer for diagnostic testing. the contact called a closer local dealer (courtesy ford located on 1636 dogwood dr se, conyers, ga, 30001). while driving to the second dealer, the speedometer dropped to zero, there was a jolt, and the vehicle would not accelerate past 30 mph. after keeping the vehicle for a week, the second dealer was unable to duplicate the failure. the manufacturer was made aware of the failure and provided case number: 12629998. the contact also inquired about a loaner vehicle, which was denied due to not having diagnosis results on the vehicle. the failure mileage was approximately 95,000.

My 2012 expedition limited has 102,000 miles. it has began to downshift unexpectedly in the range of 15mph to approximately 30 mph. it seems to downshift then get stuck in a lower gear. the transmission slows you down unexpectedly, and won't allow you to increase speed until you pull over and let it go down to 0 mph then resume entering back into traffic. i have found sites like 360 legal which say ford has a recall for a module to be reprogrammed, but ford customer service states there in no such recall and no complaints have been made regarding this defect. it's very unsafe in traffic where you slow then give it gas to expect it to increase speed and it suddenly slows no matter how far you depress the gas pedal. the transmission revs up loudly as it you were increasing speed but yet your speed cannot increase. this has happen after slowing for traffic lights and accelerating again, when i pull out of my driveway and accelerate to drive away, and in the school zone at my child's school.

Vehicle randomly down shifting at high rate of speed causing rear tires to lock up. same experiences as listed in april 27, 2016 recall notice. my vehicle was made in same manufactured plant but a few days out of the recall dates for vehicles. transmission keeps slipping while in motion of vehicle. no accidents occurred but severe safety concerns at this point.

While driving especially on the highway there is a downshift in the gears and the instrument panel goes blank i then pull over to the side of the highway turn of the engine and then start up again and every thing is back to normal. on 1/22/17 it was really bad as the same happened and i tried to pick up speed but nothing happened i had to put on my flashers and easy over to the embankment. on 10/05/16 i took the vehicle back for power train control module to the dealership but as far as i am concerned the problem still exist. as a matter of fact this has happened quite a few times since october. *tr

While driving with my four children the vehicle will down shift all of a sudden while traveling down the freeway. brought it to the dealership and was told it was not under warranty they said to call the ford 1-800 #. called 1-800 # and was told that it was not on the recall yet. so i am expected to pay for a repair which could be placed on a recall list. the diagnosis was the lead frame and the same issues as the recall.

I was driving about 40 mph, and the vehicle on the vehicle appeared to have a sudden downshift. the card drastically reduce speed very quickly and remained in a low gear although it said it was in drive. the description of what happened matches recall 16s19, however, they said my specific vehicle was not available for that recall. same year and very similar issue.

Vehicle downshifts abruptly while being driven at approximately 55 to 60 miles per hour. very dangerous, it can cause an accident. some vehicles were recalled but ford says my vin number was not in the vehicles that were recalled. the description of the problem is exactly as the one described to the recalls in 184,000 ford vehicles from 2011-2012. a wrench shows up in the dash board and a sign that shows low gasoline levels. when this problem occurs the only option is to pullover as fast as possible. i stopped turned of the car and turned it back on. after the car would drive normally without showing anything on the dashboard and without any problems. i have experienced this in the last 3 weeks at least 7 times. when a scanner is connected it does not show any signs or problems. very dangerous experience every time it happened. it usually happened at a high speed in the highway which makes it even a more dangerous situation. it happened while the vehicle was in motion and being driven over 55 miles per hour. it feels like it downshifts from 5th to 1st gear without any reason. only while driving 55 miles per hour or more. it relates to recall 12v190000 and it seems like ford promised to replace the "lead frame" which causes this defect at no charge under 10 years or 150,000 miles. they say my vin number does not have recalls. i firmly believe that the symptoms of the problem are exactly the same as what all the 184,000 cars between 2011-2012 had experienced. it is an extremely dangerous situation to be in. i also found that in the past 3 cars were involved in accidents due to this issue and thankfully no fatalities. i do not want to be involved in an accident due to this negligence from ford. please hold them responsible and acountable for their poor accountability.

Tl* the contact owns a 2012 ford expedition. the contact received notification of nhtsa campaign number: 16v248000 (power train) and stated that the part needed for the repair was not available. the contact stated that the manufacturer exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. the manufacturer was made aware of the issue. the contact had not experienced a failure. vin tool confirms parts not available.

Tl* the contact owns a 2012 ford expedition. while driving approximately 60 mph, the transmission downshifted into first and second gear independently. the vehicle was taken to the dealer to be diagnosed. the vin was not included in nhtsa campaign number: 16v248000 (power train). the manufacturer was notified of the failure. the failure mileage was unknown.

Tl* the contact owns a 2012 ford expedition. while driving 55 mph, the vehicle downshifted without warning and stalled more than once. the contact had to quickly coast the vehicle over to the side of the road and was able to restart the vehicle. the vehicle was taken to a mechanic who was unable to replicate and diagnosis the failure. the manufacturer was notified of the failure and informed the contact to take the vehicle to the dealer for diagnostic testing. the failure mileage was not available.

Tl* the contact owns a 2012 ford expedition. while driving approximatley 40 mph, the speedometer and fuel gauge readings fluctuated and the transmission jerked violently. the vin was not included in nhtsa campaign number: 12v190000 (exterior lighting, power train). the failure recurred on two separate occassions. the vehicle was taken to the dealer where the transmission output speed sensor was replaced. the manufacturer was notified of the failure. the approximate failure mileage was 63,000. updated 06/29/16*lj *cn

Could hear a loud metal to metal grinding sound. finally had the expedition towed to dealership. 3 struts need to be replaced as well as the shocks. driver side bearing was worn out. the passenger side is almost there. the expedition only has 50,000 miles. after getting this information from the dealer we read the power train warranty. the warranty will only replace the driver side bearing. when the passenger side is making the same noise dealership said to bring it in.

When driving the car in motion at speeds over 40 mph the breaks would lock up and the car would come to a complete stop

My transmission shifts down in situations it shouldn't. it also doesn't matter how fast i am going. this creates an issue with steering. i tried to have it fixed but they couldn't figure out what was wrong and it doesn't do it all the time so i couldn't recreate the problem for them. the problem always happens when i am traveling at high speeds (60-80) and usually when i have been going up and down mountains in my area. it happened very frequently when i used cruise control in the past and i start going downhill. i stopped using cruise control because of that.

On many occasions from around may or june of 2013, when the car is accelerating from first to second gear it "jumps". it feels as if someone has hit the back of the vehicle. the vehicle was taken back to the dealership 3 times. each time they have updated the software and supposedly solved the problem. after each return of the vehicle the problem had only gotten worse. the second time after being "fixed" by the dealership the very next day someone almost rear ended the vehicle because the "jump" was so impactful that i suddenly applied my brakes thinking someone had rear ended me. the car behind me stop just an hair short of hitting the vehicle. beyond getting whiplash from the constant "jumps", i am afraid that something very serious will happen if this is not fixed or corrected. *tr

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